8364 Network Station (n2800)
Work in Progress!
NOTE: I am not a programmer, electrical engineer, or any sort of a trained technician. All this info has been available off the manufacturer's web sites at one point or the other. There is no disassembled code here, and I do not deal in Warez.

WARNING! If you are dealing with a medical (life support or patient's records), factory automation, or business applications, there is no guarantee that any of the files or information on this page will be suitable for your application, installed components, or network equipment (routers, gateways, etc).

DISCLAIMER: If you need mission critical technical support, contact the hardware (I assume IBM, if not Lenovo) or software manufacturer.

   For those of you willing to accept the possibility of incompatible drivers, erroneous references, and out-and-out just wrong information, please continue. Since this material is presented as-is, you get what you pay for.

Service Manual (in *.inf format!)
qb3a9y00.pdf   N2800e Thin Client Express Reference Sep 2000
qb3aru01.pdf   Setting Up IBM Network Station Hardware - Type 8364 (Exx, Txx) Jul 99
QB3ARV01.pdf  IBM Network Station Service Information Type 8364 (Exx, Txx) Sept 99

FW82371EB PCI-TO-ISA/IDE Xcelerator,(PIIX4E) Preliminary Draft
FW82371EB-Update PCI-TO-ISA/IDE Xcelerator,(PIIX4E) Specification Update
FW82439TX  System Controller (MTXC) Preliminary Datasheet
PC87309 Super I/O Plug and Play Compatible Chip
ADM211 0.1 μF, 5 V Powered CMOS RS-232 Drivers/Receivers

Windows 98 on the IBM NetVista 8364 a How-To Guide  By William Walsh
IBM NetVista 2800 Hacking by Kevin Bowling

E13Z45US IBM S3 TRIO 86C365 W98SE Drivers 
E18Z29UZ IBM S3 TRIO 86C365 NT driver
E11T24A IBM S3 TRIO 86C365 OS/2 driver.
e59z17us.exe  S3 video driver for Win 95, 98, and Me 11/17/2004
NOTE: Because the Trio3D is an AGP device, OEM Service Release 2.1 or later for Windows 95 must be installed on your system for the device drivers to work properly.
q68t03a.exe S3 Trio video device driver for WinNT 4.0 q68t03a.txt README for S3 Trio video device driver for WinNT 4.0
q63t07a.exe S3 Trio video device driver for Windows 95 v2.41.06
q63t07a.txt S3 Trio video device driver for Windows 95 v2.41.06
q64t04a.exe S3 Trio video device driver for Windows NT 3.51
q64t04a.txt README for S3 Trio video device driver for Windows NT 3.51
q68t03a.exe S3 Trio video device driver for Windows NT 4.0
q68t03a.txt README for S3 Trio video device driver for Windows NT 4.0
q61204a.exe S3 v2 drivers OS/2 6588 6888 v3.03.07 Disk 2 of 2
q61t04a.exe S3 v2 drivers OS/2 6588 6888 v3.03.07 Disk 1 of 2
q61t04a.txt Readme for S3 V2 Drivers OS/2 6588 6888 v3.03.07

Cirrus Logic Legacy Driver Support:

Intel Drivers for 8255x Family
      Intel will change this download page eventually. All drivers below are on another server.
PRO2K.exe  Intel Drivers for Windows* 2000, Final Release Ver 14.0
PRO98M.EXE  Win98 and SE Network Adapter Base Drivers Ver 10.3
PROOS2.EXE  Network Adapter Drivers for OS/2 Ver 10.0
PRO95.EXE   Windows* 95 Driver Release Ver 6.2
e100-3.5.17.tar.gz  10/100 Base Driver for Linux* with 2.4.19 to 2.6.x kernels Ver 3.5.17
e100-2.1.15.tar.gz  10/100 Base Driver for Linux* with 2.2.x kernels Ver 2.1.15

VISW98 Search for the file visualswindows98patch.zip and extract VISW98.COM
UNATA APSoft DOS Point Enabler for ATA Cards

The IBM NetVista Thin Client models N2200 and N2800 ship from manufacturing with firmware (also called NS Boot version or boot prom). Depending on the manufacturing date of the thin client you have, the firmware level may be 07/17/00, 01/12/01, 07/16/01 or 12/06/01. To use the NetVista Thin Client with Turbolinux 7 on model N2200 and N2800 thin clients, the firmware level (12/06/01 or later) must be installed on these clients.

cf-card.H4011201.img.bz2   (01/12/01)
cf-card.H4071700.img.bz2  (07/17/00)
bflash.2800.H4071601.img.bz2  (07/16/00)
bflash.2800.HL072902.img.bz2  (07/29/02)
H2033190   03/31/99 

HD25-I PCI 2.5" Carrier Card  Mount a 2.5" HD on a PCI Card! dead
   HD25-I Setup dead

8364 External Connectors
8364 Planar (-NUS version)
   8364 Memory (256MB max)
   PCI Riser
8364 Video
HD Power Connector
   HD Power Connector Pinout
Mounting IDE HD
Maximum Drive Size (CF and IDE!)
Configuration for Hard Drive Boot (from Unal Z)
Mounting a CF MicroDrive in CF Slot (Cold Steel to the rescue!)
   W98SE Setup Issues
   Preparing MicroDrive for Use Under W98SE
   Thoughts on the FW82371EB PCI-ISA Xcelerator
   Thoughts on the PC87309 SuperI/O Plug and Play Chip
Clear Administrator Password and CMOS
Create Recovery Compactflash Card
Change AC Voltage
Remove PSU

8364 External Connectors

NOTE: The Mouse goes into the connector NEXT to the frame!

NOTE: Default password is IBMNCD.

"Foot" 41L4939
Base - 41L4940

Access Setup
   Power up the 8364. Then press the F1 key during the IBM Network Station's logo display, and after the keyboard LEDs flash.

Note: Pressing F1 during the system's keyboard test causes a false 301 Keyboard Error will display, and you will be prompted for the administrator password.

Display the OS Diagnostic Messages
for OS/2 Systems
   To display the OS diagnostic messages during start up, press Alt+F2 after the white block and IBM logo appear in the upper left corner of the screen.

8364 Planar Outline NUS version


CR9 Status (System) LED
J1 USB 1.1 ports
J2, 6 Memory DIMM Socket
J3 Three pin header, unk
J5 10/100 Ethernet port
J7 space for X86 Debug Connector
J8 26 pin VIP Connector
J9 Serial 2
J10 Serial 1
J11 Hard File Power (Molex)
J12 Password Override
J13 Boot Block
J14 Compact Flash Connector
J15 Parallel Port
J16 HD Connector (std 40 pin IDE)
J17 Wake on LAN
J18 Power In
J19 Internal Speaker Connector
J20 PCI Rev 2.1 Riser
J21 Aux Audio In
J22 Headphone / Speaker
J23 Video
J24 Microphone
J25 Mouse / Keyboard
M1 ZIF Socket 7
M3 Battery Holder, CR2032
U2 5156BM Linear VR (Core Volt)
U3 intel GD82559
U5 PI6C671FV Clock Generator
U6 intel PCIset FW82439TX
U7, 11 AD ADM211 RS-232 Driver
U8, 9 SGRAM 
U10 PC87309IBW Super IO
U12 TAG Ram 32k x 8
U13 L2 Cache 64k x 64
U14 S3 Trio 3D / 86C365
U15 intel PCIset FW82371EB
U19 M29F0408 Flash
U21 ST 7805M 12-5 VRM
U23 Crystal CS4235-KQ
Q1 IRL3103 
Y1 25.0000 MHz xtal
Y2 14.318 MHz xtal
Y3 32.768 KHz xtal
Y4 16.934 MHz xtal0

J11 Hardfile Power connector Molex 43045, mates with a Molex 43025-0400
J16 Hard File Connector is a standard .1" pitch 40 pin IDE port.
U5 PI6C671FV Pericom Technology Clock Generator for Pentium Modules DATASHEET

U8, 9 SGRAM HYB39S16320TQ-5.5
U10 PC87309IBW Super IO
U12 IS61LV256-12J TAG Ram 32k x 8
U13 IS61LV6464-6TQ L2 Cache 64k x 64

Planar is marked Lite On 20V0. FRU 41L5339 and P/N 41L5342

U3 intel GD82559 - Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter.

8364 Memory (256MB max)
Known as 168 pin SDRAM, PC100, 100MHZ Non-Parity (NP). Unbuffered. CL2

 32MB SDRAM DIMM (OPT P/N 01K1136) 01K1146 
 64MB SDRAM DIMM (OPT P/N 22p0848)  (01K1147) 22P0884 
 64MB SDRAM DIMM Kingston KTM1136/64
128MB SDRAM DIMM (OPT P/N 22p0851)  (01K1148) 22P0885 
128MB SDRAM DIMM Kingston KTM1136/128 45L0255 16Mx64 3.3V

8364 PCI Riser P/N 94H1052

8364 Video
  This section is focused on the W98 drivers, other O/S may be different. YMMV. The 8364 uses the S3 Trio3D 86C365 chip with 4MB of video RAM on-planar.

S3 Trio3d stuff, via Internet archive HERE
*  Enhanced 128-bit graphics engine
* Integrated 230 MHz RAMDAC and programmable dual-clock synthesizer
* Enhanced S3® Streams Processor for hardware-assisted high-quality video playback of two video streams against a graphics background
* S3 Local Peripheral Bus/Video Interface Port for direct interface to live video and MPEG-2 peripherals
* 3.3V core logic with 5V tolerant I/O 

S3 Trio 3D Windows 9x Driver Ver
Tool Kit ver (s3dtkw.dll)  6.00.01
Refresh Rate util ver 2.01.22 

NOTE: Set display to "STANDARD DISPLAY ADAPTER (VGA)" before applying this updated driver. The system will have used the default "PCI VGA Display Adapter" which does not work with the S3 Trio 3D drivers.

Colors    Resolution  Refresh
4\8\16\32 640 x 480   60,72,75,85
4\8\16\32 800 x 600   56,60,72,75,85
4\8\16\32 1024 x 768  43,60,70,75,85
8\16      1152 x 864  60,70,75,85
  32      1152 x 864  60,70
8\16      1280 x 1024 43,60,75,85
8\16      1600 x 1200 49,60,75,85 

Open 8364 Case

1. Turn off the power supply switch A.
2. Disconnect all cables from the thin client.

3. Hold the 8364 cover assembly, lift latch B, and pull the logic unit C out.
   NOTE: If the logic unit does not want to slide out, you can pull up on the latch and push in on the white button, forcing the logic unit out. Or you can hold the 8364 with the logic unit towards the ground, and then pull up on the latch, letting gravity help.

4. Carefully lay the logic unit down with the internal components facing up.

Close the 8364 Case
1. To reassemble the thin client, carefully slide the logic unit C into the cover assembly while depressing the slide stop D. NOTE: The slide stop will keep the cover from closing...

2. Slide the logic unit completely into the cover assembly, until the latch B is engaged.

To lay the unit flat, remove the foot or pedestal. In this orientation, the system can support a monitor weighing up to 90 pounds with the minimum footprint.

    The 8364 Network Station provides a hardware security "lock-down" point at the back/bottom of the machine. Obtain a suitable locking cable (usually consisting of woven metal fibers with a lock on one end). Thread it through the lock-down point (or hole) and then lock it to a suitable place (such as a table or other piece of furniture). When this feature is in use, the system cannot be opened (preventing theft of internal components) and it cannot be removed from the table to which it is connected (depending on the length of the securing cable).


The PCB connecting the ports is a Foxcon 6B-010B-A030.

The drive is a TEAC CD-224E, it pulls 1.5A, +5v.

The good thing is all of the IDE and power connectors are attached. When the proper terminals arrive, I hope to use this as a simple CD Rom drive to install an O/S with.

Power Connector for IDE Device
Aron Eisenpress chimes up with:
   The connector in the 8364 and the 43025-0400 are both 4 pin connectors and they mate. Just looked them up in the Mouser catalog and they are still available there too. NOTE: If you do order the connector, you have to order the pins separately!

43025-0400  Molex Micro-Fit 3.0 Connectors RECEPTACLE 4P DUAL ROW In Digi-Key and Mouser. 

Micro-Fit 3.0 Terminal - Female terminals 20-24 AWG and 26-30AWG
43030-00xx, in tin over phosphor bronze, selective gold over phosphor bronze
45773, Reel versions of 43030, w/wo lubricant.
46235 Reduced Mating Force (RMF) design, w/wo lubricant.

Micro-Fit 3.0 Terminal - Male terminals 20-24 AWG and 26-30AWG
43031-00xx, in tin over phosphor bronze, selective gold over phosphor bronze
NOTE: These will NOT mate with the planar connector! This is to help you understand which terminal that you need!

Salvaging an Existing 43025 Equipped Cable
   Folks, there is an extractor tool available from Molex (HT60923a). Problem is that removing one of the pins from a 43025 ruins the terminal, and you will have to cut the terminal off and crimp on another anyway. Simpler to snip off the mis-wired cable and crimp new terminals on it, IMHO...

Hard File Connector Pinout  vs 24P0621 / 24P0622

8364 Planar Connector
Molex 43045 with male pins                    

Wire colors:
24P0621 / 24P0622 Pinout
Molex 43025-0400 with female terminals

Wire Colors:

   I finally got a 24P0621 / 24P0622 cable, and Kevin Bowling had already alerted folks to the swap of the connectors. Here is how the cable is mis-wired. Note that in the planar connector, RED and YLW are on the same side, while on the cable, RED and YLW are on a diagonal... Best I can determine, the 24P0621 uses AWG 20 wire.

NOTE: I had trouble inserting the female terminal into the 43025. Upon looking at the orientation of the female terminals into the 43025, I noticed that the female connector resembles a "U", with the open top towards the clip on the 43025. By simply turning the female terminal so the "U" was towards the clip, they clicked into place without trouble.

Mounting IDE Drive
Aron says:
   The best way I found to mount a laptop hard drive in these is to screw the drive to one of the 2.5"-to-3.5" mounting rails, then use a wire tie to hold the rail-and-drive assembly to the crossbar in the 8364.  Just make sure the extra tie part doesn't project above the bar or you could find it difficult to open up the case again (BTDT).

P.P.S. The service manual is in the EPRM .  It'll tell you most of what you want to know. 

Maximum Drive Size
Martin Etteldorf wrote:
> As the CF slot is just an add-on to the IDE-Controller, everything up to the max. supported disk size should work well. I'm running with 2 GB CF at the moment without any problem, and even the 80 GB disk I used before was working fine.

  I am using a Hitachi 4GB MicroDrive. The full capacity is reported by the BIOS, and it is selectable as a Boot device.

Each IDE device can have independent timings. The IDE interface supports PIO IDE transfers up to 14 Mbytes/sec and Bus Master IDE transfers up to 33 Mbytes/sec. It does not consume any ISA DMA resources. The IDE interface integrates 16x32-bit buffers for optimal transfers.

P/N 31L5143 CF Card support
   Oops, let me clarify - It is a compact flash card support bracket. It can barely do that. From the design, it looks as if a CF card prevents the installed bracket from significant movement. Without a CF card, the blasted thing wants to push away from the vertical frame that runs from in front of the PSU, to the top of the frame by the CPU.

A 2.5" hard drive will not fit in it lengthwise, because the "well" for the CF card sticks up too far, forcing a 2.5" drive up at the CF socket end so that it will be about 1/2" above the frame.

Additions to the PIIX4E USB interface beyond UHCI, revision 1.1 include support for over-current detection on USB ports 0 and 1. If an over-current condition is detected on a USB port, that port will be disabled

Netvista 8364 BIOS Settings for Hard Drive Boot (and CF)
Unal Z sent this:
Konfig für HDD-Boot:
 Start Options > Startup Sequence > First Startup Device > Hard Disk 0
  Start Options > Automatic Power On Startup Sequence > Enable
  Start Options > Automatic Power On Startup Sequence > First Startup Device > Hard Disk 0
  Start Options > Firmware Selection > WorkSpace On Demand

Once into the BIOS,  look for:
  Devices and I/O Ports >  Network Setup:
    Network Support: Enabled (enables the built-in NIC)
   IDE Devices > IDE Device 0 > enable High Performance and Read Prefetch. They worked with my MicroDrive.

Start Options
   Power On F1/Esc Options: Enabled (or you cannot get into BIOS easily)
   Network Boot: Disabled (also RPL or DHCP) 

Change NS Boot to WSOD. This works in the H4011201 (01/12/01) firmware.

Boot. Eventually, you can hit F5 or any key to continue.
  Choose "Service Aids"
  Choose "Change Firmware Support"
  Choose "BIOS for WorkSpace On Demand"
    The system will just dump you out to the Service Aids screen. F10 and Reboot. 

   WSOD allows system to boot to all BIOS based OSs, ex. WSOD, OS/2, and DOS.

Mounting a Microdrive in the CF Slot
From Us, the god Emperor of Microchannel:
   I was looking for a simple way to install a 2GB plus drive in the 8364 in a quick manner. Not wanting to diddle with finding a  43025-0400 and creating my own cable, then futzing with lashing a laptop drive to the cross-piece, I settled on using a MicroDrive.

    I bought a Hitachi 4GB CF MicroDrive (MD4GB-BP), Model HMS360604D5CF00. Now things slowed to a full stop. The CF slot in an 8364 is for Type I cards. The MicroDrive is a Type II, which is thicker. It did not fit. After long meditation, I figured out a way to get around the width problem. Simply cut the side out.

   Armed with a small Swiss Army knife, I carefully slit the REARWARD side of the CF slot. The slot is made of thermoplastic, so it's stiff. Once I slit the slot to the base on both sides, I simply pushed the detached web towards the rear of the system and it snapped. It took some wiggling, but the web broke off. Leave the ends alone, for they have the retaining slots that keep things tight. A bit of trimming with a box cutter, and the MD fully seats.

Further Thoughts on the FB82371EB PCI-TO-ISA/IDE Xcelerator,(PIIX4E)
   In my struggles to get my Hitachi 4GB MicroDrive to act as the sole IDE device in the 8364, I read up on the FW82371EB. It supports Ultra DMA/33, and so does the Hitachi 3K4. The BIOS may be sensitive to drives formatted on other controllers, resulting in a 1962 error, no startable drive.

Further Thoughts on the PC87309IBW Super IO
   I don't know if the BIOS supports this, but the datasheet mentions Serial 2 can support various IR modes.

Wake on LAN
You can enable or disable the Network Station’s Wake on LAN feature by entering the setup utility. For more information, refer to the BIOS screen summary for “Power management”

Clear Administrator Password and CMOS

      There are two different possibilities, WorkSpace On-Demand (WSOD) and Network Station (NS) Boot. With WSOD, all configuration settings are cleared from the BIOS. On NS Boot:, only the administrator password is cleared.

Step #1 Move the jumpers into configuration -2- 
           Note: All systems ship with jumpers installed in configuration  -1-. 

Step #2  Power on the 8364 and wait a few moments. (reconnect power cable to 8364). 
         WSOD - The system LED flashes green at  this time
          NS Boot - There are no system LED indications at this time

Step #3 Power off the system and move the jumpers back into the default configuration -1-. 
           Note: If you do not move the jumpers back, your 8364 may not work properly. 

Create Recovery CompactFash (CF) Card

NOTE: BOOTBLK: This creates a copy of the Network Station firmware (flash image).  The flash image that is stored on the CF card includes both NS Boot and BIOS images. You need a CF card to complete this procedure (256MB max).

This creates a copy of the 8364 firmware (flash image) on a CF card.
Note: Once a recovery CF card is created for an 8364, it can only be used to re-flash an 8364.
1. Open the Case
2. Insert CF card into connector.
3. Move jumpers into configuration 2.
     Note: All systems ship with jumpers installed in configuration 1.

4. Power on the 8364. (reconnect the power cable to the logic unit!)
5. Wait for the system LED to flash green.
     Note: If system LED flashes amber, the image was not created. Repeat procedure, or see “Resolving hardware problems” on page 31 for problem determination.
6. Power off the 8364.
7. Remove the CF card and store in a safe place.
8. Move the jumpers back into the default configuration 1.
   Note: If jumpers are not moved back into configuration 1, your 8364 may not function

Change AC Voltage


Base (Mounting Stand)               41L4981 
Power Supply (115V-230V)   94H1254 

Power Consumption
    Normal power consumption for the 8364, while running applications, ranges from 24 to 28 Watts. During periods of inactivity, the system switches into the suspend state, and power consumption reduces to approximately 18 Watts. Once the system enters the soft-off state, power consumption reduces to approximately 10 Watts. 
      Note: Power consumption may fluctuate or vary from these values, depending on the voltage selection (115V or 230V) of the 8364. 

Remove PSU
  Slide chassis out of case. Unscrew the two #2 Phillips below the AC receptacle. Remove the PCI Riser bracket and the PCI riser. Flip the chassis around and remove the single phillips through the planar that is above the AC receptacle. Unplug the planar power connector just below the IDE and CF connectors by squeezing the latch and rocking the plug while pulling it out. Now slide the PSU towards the front of the case. When the AC receptacle end of the PSU clears the back of the chassis, push the PSU out of the chassis. Be careful of the power connector, I rolled the PSU along the length after removing it about half way so the power connector is rotated towards the inside. This gave me clearance to remove the PSU.

  It is a SuperRed CHA6012DS, 12v 0.18A 60mm H x 60 W x 23mm D.

Replacement Fan
Aron Eisenpress said:
   Turns out that the fan (SuperRed CHA6012DS, as per Louis's pages), has sleeve bearings. The fans seized up, the power supply overheated, and that was it.

A nice replacement fan with ball bearings is the Delta AFB0612HH, with the exact same connector. It's 2mm thicker than the original but that doesn't matter. Replacement is easy – and it's quieter than the original too.

Although they have 3 wires, there is no 3rd wire monitoring of the fan's RPM tachometer speed. It is for a locked rotor alarm only. Also has over current shut down. Motor winding impedance will protect fan with locked rotor from catching fire for up to 96 hours at rated voltage (up to 13.8v DC)

Size, mm........ 60mm x 60mm x 25mm
Voltage......... 12 volts DC
Current.......... 0.25A
Watts........... 3.0
RPM ............ 5000
Flow CFM (Max).. 22.95
Noise (dBA)..... 33.0

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