NetView/6000 V2R1 : ovwdb '-n' option

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Our customoer managing larg Network using NetView/6000 V2R1. Their NW           
has about 20000 IP nodes and the number of objects in object_DB of              
NV/6K reaches to 40000.                                                         
                                                                                
In our test environment, the number of objects in object_DB had reached         
to about 20000 and the performance of NV6K has been wrong. We tried to          
increase the size of 'ovwdb's object cache' by changing '-n' option,            
from -n5000(default) to -n25000 and performance of NV6K has been                
improved.                                                                       
                                                                                
We have a plan to increase object cache size of ovwdb from 5000                 
to 40000.                                                                       
Is there any limitation of object cache size of 'ovwdb'?                        
(Could we set number freely to -n option ?)                                    
                                                                                
Thanks a million ¢¢                                                             
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TIME:0715                                                                       
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TIME:1157                                                                       
I will check -- but, in the meantime let me know what numbers you test          
with and how the performance improves.  I don't mean that you need to           
do exact performance "measurements" or anything, just a feeling for             
what you mean by: Performance improves  (you must have some way you             
"measure" that it improves or you just get a good feeling it does?)             
                                                                                
Thanks.                                                                         
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Sorry for my insufficient exposition.                                           
I have no exact performance measurements about ovwdb cache size.                
The "improvement" is by just feeling.                                          
                                                                                
Regards.                                                                        
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TIME:0753                                                                       
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TIME:0938                                                                       
OK, I will let you know when the developers get back to me.                     
                                                                                
I looked in the online documentation (I assume you did as well) and             
the discussion is "only" a memory discussion -- so, it is possible              
the practical limit is memory.  But, let's wait and see what they say.          
                                                                                
Thanks.                                                                         
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TIME:1608                                                                       
As far as I can find out, the only practical upper limit is memory.            
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Thanks for yor note.                                                            
But I have one more question about ovwdb cache size.                            
Development suggested that setting the cache size to 0.                         
What does it mean ? Ovwdb uses no cache ? Or ovwdb dynamically                  
allocates a block of memory in propotion to the number of objects ?             
                                                                                
Thanks in advance.                                                              
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TIME:0829                                                                       
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====> RESP: SHOGREN  AT WTSCPOK  ======================== DATE:960126           
TIME:1201                                                                       
  From development:                                                             
                                                                                
  The cache size of 0 means all ovwdb objects will be kept                      
  in memory.  cache size of x (greater than 0) means only                       
  x objects will be kept in memory.                                            
                                                                                
 The following points are from NetView for AIX V3 testing and are added         
 here for information.                                                          
                                                                                
1) Performance might improve for the customer by setting the cache              
   size to 0.  I would ask the customer to make a database backup               
   for safety, and then, set the cache size to zero and see how                 
   things go.                                                                   
                                                                                
2) Also, we believe if you set the cache size too high (40,000?),               
   ovwdb might try to allocate a block of memory larger than that               
allowed                                                                         
   by the operating system.  We will make a change in the next                  
   PTF that should avoid this problem.  All the more reason to try              
   a "0" cache size.                                                           
                                                                                
3) However: Be careful.  The work I am doing is in Version 3.  There            
   have been changes from Version 2 to Version3 that could muddy                
   the water when making the recommendations of using a 0 cache size.           
                                                                                
   ovwdb will work better (faster) if you use a larger cache size.              
   My understanding is, your cache size should be a little more                 
   than the number of objects in your database.                                 
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                               


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