NetView for AIX : NewNode Discovery

ITEM: RS4000016651



**************> QUESTION level 1 --> level 2 SPECIALIST <**************         
                                                                                
Our Customer is managing Large NW. And we have had a trouble that NV            
for                                                                             
sometimes found wrong NW.                                                       
Our customer use adress 10.0.0.0(class A) with subnetmask its range is          
                                                                                
255.255.255.0 to 255.255.255.240 .NV sometimes add "10.0.0.0" NW toMap.         
We list ALL Interface of Router to seedfile because we wish to "manage"         
all subnetwork automatically.                                                   
We had get one suggestion from Development that if NV failed to get MIB         
value from node, NV took a wrong guess on the subnetmask .                      
But we want to know more detail of "New Node discovery" and "Add                
Network                                                                         
to solve our trouble.                                                          
Q1.                                                                             
Whats the conditions that branch to "New SubNet Add" proc ?                     
We guess that if NV failed to get MIB value from the any nodes on the           
seedfile, NV judge the node belongs to 10.0.0.0 NW . Is it collect ?            
                                                                                
                                                                                
Q2.                                                                             
Does the NV get information about SubNetMask only from MIB table , or           
use ICMP at the same time ?                                                     
                                                                                
Q3.                                                                             
Our customer is using NV/6000 V2R1. They have a plan to migrate NV              
to V4R1. And They want to know if does V4R1 add incllect NW on                  
same condition to V2R1 .                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                                
Best Regards.                                                                   
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==== THIS TEXT HAS BEEN ENTERED BY IBM IN USA                                  
PMR E0092,998,760 was created on 96/06/05 at 00:55:52.                          
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==== THIS TEXT HAS BEEN ENTERED BY IBM IN USA                                  
==== RESP: NHL      AT WTSCPOK  ================= DATE:960605                  
TIME:0631                                                                       
                                                                                
We have received your question and assigned it to a specialist.  We             
will respond as soon as possible.                                               
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TIME:0637                                                                       
The question has been re-assigned to SHOGREN.                                   
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==== RESP: SHOGREN  AT WTSCPOK  ================= DATE:960605                  
TIME:0904                                                                       
Imanishi-san,                                                                   
                                                                                
I will check with development and see what they come back with.  Thanks         
for making the questions quite specific -- that should help in getting          
answers.                                                                        
                                                                                
I suspect that the answer to your Q3. will be that this area is not             
changed in V3 or V4.                                                            
                                                                               
However, let's see what development responds with.                              
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==== RESP: SHOGREN  AT WTSCPOK  ================= DATE:960605                  
TIME:0948                                                                       
Imanishi-san,                                                                   
                                                                                
Development came back very quickly on this.  Here is their response.            
                                                                                
 A1.                                                                            
    Yes, if NV can not get the information from the MIB it                      
    guesses what the mask is.  In this case it assumes a                        
    Class A network based on the ip address (10.x.x.x)                          
                                                                                
 A2.                                                                           
    Only from MIB.  It does, at times, do an ICMP mask request                  
    but only for verification rather than during creation time.                 
                                                                                
 A3.                                                                            
    V4 does the same thing.  Actually you only need 1 interface                 
    of the router in the seedfile.  Then all interfaces and                     
    networks off that router get managed.  Also, you should only                
    have SNMP devices in the seedfile.                                          
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                               

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