QUESTION:
I am running with AIX 3.2.5 and NV/6000 3.1 with PTF U434186. There is
one large T/R segment on my network, because of the number of icons on
this map, label is lost. Instead of changing the scale factor to see a
portion of the map a time. I decided to group some of the stations
together. I have tried the following from the segment map:
1. Added a location object and connected it to the T/R.
2. Added a T/R object and connected it to the T/R.
Then I cut several objects with it's connection from the segment map
and paste it to the location map and the T/R map. But the objects
in the new map were not connected, there is a shadow behind it,
indicating this is a user plane. However, if I cut everything from
the new submap and paste it back to the segment map where it came
from, the object will connect back. Please help me with the following
two questions:
1. Should the object be connected to the T/R submap I created?
2. What is the recommended way of handling a segment with more than
50 objects.
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A: I was able to reproduce the problem you have described. Here is
what I found:
In order to add a location to NetView/6000 and add objects and
sites to the location you must add the location at the Internet
map level, otherwise the objects will not be connected together.
You cannot add a location once you have clicked on a node
or segment.
These are the steps I used to create a submap and add the objects
to them.
1) From the root map select the Internet map.
2) Add a location at the Internet map level with the following:
Edit
Add
Object
Location
3) Label your location
4) Select the objects you intend to cut and paste to the location
using the left mouse button. Then use the following to cut
and paste the objects to the new location:
Edit
Cut
From This Submap
and in the new location use
Edit
Paste
If this information does not solve the problem please re-open this
this item.
Thank You
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QUESTION:
I have found out the same thing. However, even the object appeared
as on the user plane in the container object that I created on my
segment map, it is still managed by the ipmap. When I shutdown one
system, the color goes to red and the color of the container turned
yellow (since I have more than one object in the container). After the
system comes back, both the object and container turns back green (that was wha
makes me think it really should be on the application plane instead of
the user plane).
Would you please comment on that? Also, please respond to my second
question listed above.
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A: The object should be on the user plane as the rules for cutting and
pasting do not allow what you are doing.
For more information on cutting and pasting, check the administration
guide.
The recommended way to support segments is to use location containers
set up beginning at the internet level or to use the scaling factor.
I hope that this helps.
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QUESTION:
I am looking for a better way of handling a busy segment (a segment
with more than 50 nodes), not a network submap with multiple segments.
Thank you for your help.
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A. The desire for better segmentation of network elements has been
discussed and enhancements should appear in future releases.
But today:
1). Scaling is an option, but this causes the end user to have to
scroll around and hunt for a machine, but it uses system
resources.
2). Using location and network containers from the internet level
down.
This allows ipmap to keep the connections for you, but creates a
structure from the very top. The end user can choose
can choose to have a particular submap opened to avoid having to
traverse the tree each time NetView for Aix is started.
3). Disregard the rules of ipmap and just create submaps any where.
The major problem with this is that ipmap wil move symbols to
the user plane and not "manage" them. It will, however continue
to show the status of those machines (up, down, marginal, ...).
"manage" means that ipmap will not maintain the connections.
At the segment level, that is probably ok for most users, especially
when they are connected to a token ring. The picture is not very
interesting ( a big circle), and if the T/R goes down, all of the
machines will turn red.
4). Create a new map that has only the important nodes within this
network.
5). Add an application to NetView that presents the nodes in a
different view for the customer. Marketing Tools has the
NetView Association Catalog which contains applications that
may be suitable.
The customer must also decide how many of the nodes on this ring
are really important enough to be managed. It is not necessary to
manage all of the nodes (PC's, or non snmp oriented machines).
Those that are not important can be deleted or hidden from view.
A lot of this will be dependent on what the customer means by the
term "manage".
Usually the important nodes as far as connections are the routers,
gateways, hubs or the like. These can be put in containers if the
customer likes.
I hope that this helps.
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