HOW CAN I HAVE MULTIPLE LAN-PROFILES IN A CELL WITH ONE CDS SERVER WHEN THE LAN-PROFILE IS SET UP WITH THE CDS?

ITEM: RTA000038142



                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
QUESTION:                                                                       
Do I have to use a different LAN profile for each TCP/IP subnet for             
DTS to work properly under DCE? My TCP/IP mask is 255.255.255.192.              
Does this mean that each subnet is considered a separate lan and there-         
fore requires a separate lan profile for that lan? How do you determine         
which lan-profile to use if a machine is a gateway between the two              
lans and you have to specify the lan-profile when you define the cds            
for the cell. What if you have only one cell, one cds server and                
multiple lans based on the subnet mask? Since the lan-profile is defined        
when I set up the cds, I don't see how I can set up multiple lan-              
profiles ( one for each lan).Can you please clarify this for me?                
Also, is there any reason I wouldn't make all of my machines a DTS              
server since there are so few machines on each subnet?                          
                                                                                
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A: Here are the answers to your questions:                                      
                                                                                
1. Do different lan profiles need to be used for each subnet?                   
                                                                                
DCE DTS will still work with only one lan profile, but this could               
affect the accuracy of the DTS timeservers. When a DTS local server is          
configured, information is placed in the lan-profile.                           
The DTS clerks and DTS servers will look in the lan-profile for local DTS      
servers. A global DTS server is placed in the lan-profile and in the            
cell-profile. If there are not enough local time servers in the                 
lan-profile when a time sync is done, DTS will check the cell-profile           
for global DTS servers. If a global time server is in a lan-profile,            
it is considered a local time server for those DCE systems that refer to        
the same lan-profile. The purpose of lan-profiles is to group DTS servers       
on the same network together. Network delays affect the inaccuracy value        
associated with DTS time.                                                       
                                                                                
2. If each net is a separate LAN, do they need separate lan profiles?           
                                                                                
If the LANs are all fast (ethernet, token-ring, or fddi) and the have           
small delays between them, then it is not as critical to have                  
different lan profiles. But, if there are routers spread across the             
country connected by slower links (x.25, async), then it is better to           
have different lan-profiles. Another case would be the same IP subnet           
connected by split bridges that may have slow links. In this case, there        
is one subnet, but because of the split-bridge, you would want a                
different lan-profile on each side of the bridge.                               
                                                                                
3. If a system is on multiple networks, which lan-profile?                      
                                                                                
If a system is on multiple networks, base it on either the more accurate        
time server (using an external time provider) or the faster network if          
the time servers accuracies are comparable.                                     
                                                                               
4. How are extra lan-profiles defined?                                          
                                                                                
When the initial CDS server is defined, it creates /.:/lan-profile.             
Other lan-profiles can be created either when additional CDS servers            
are configured or when a DCE client is configured. There is an entry            
in the SMIT menu for the lan profile to be used or created if needed.           
                                                                                
5. Should all DCE systems be DTS Servers?                                       
                                                                                
This will depend on the number of systems and the network.                      
If there are few DCE systems on each network, with slow links between           
the networks, then this is accurate. DTS by default looks for 3 DTS             
servers when a time sync is done. It first looks in the lan profile            
for local time servers. If enough are not found there, it then checks the       
cell profile for global time servers. If the number of required servers         
are not found, then the time sync will not occur. There should be at            
3 DTS servers accessible to every DCE system.                                   
                                                                                
On the other hand, if there are hundreds of DCE systems in the network,         
you don't want all of the configured as DTS servers. This will generate         
unnecessary network traffic.                                                    
                                                                                
The AIX DCE Administration Guide (SC23-2475-01) has a very good                 
description of DTS.                                                             
                                                                                
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QUESTION:                                                                       
In answer #1, you said that if the required number of servers could             
not be found in the lan-profile, then the machine would go to the cell-         
profile and get info. from global-servers until enough servers had been         
contacted to meet the minimum server number requirement. Does this mean         
that if I had a network that had 10 local lan servers on it and if the          
minimum number of servers required parameter was left at its default of         
three, then that machine would never check with a global server or a            
machine off of the lan in computing its time synch? Is it safe to say           
that the way you keep this lan from drifting as a whole away from the           
rest of the cell is to ensure that it has at least one courier server?          
If so, then what determines how often that courier is contacted by              
machines on the lan when they are synching their time?                         
                                                                                
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QUESTION:                                                                       
You also mention in answer #5 that all machines should not be set up            
to be dts servers because of the increase in network traffic. How is            
this an extra burden since all machines check (clerk or server) check           
the lan-profile for other machines to poll. If all of the other machines        
were servers, I don't see how this would cause any more traffic than            
a clerk polling other clerks and servers. Could you please clarify              
this misunderstanding for me. Thanks so much˘                                   
                                                                                
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A: If the minimum number of time servers are defined in the lan                
profile and no courier time server is defined, then it is possible              
for the time to drift. Having a local time server configured as a               
courier time server will guarantee that one global time server is               
used when the time servers synchronize. If a global time server is              
configured in the same lan-profile it is not considered a global                
time server. It is a global time server to local time servers defined           
in other lan profiles. The best way to keep time is to connect either           
a global or a local time server to an external time provider.                   
   Configuring all systems as time servers as opposed to configuring            
the minimum plus a a few spare, will ensure better clock inaccuracy.            
If there were 20 DCE systems on a network, with all configured as time          
servers, then there are many different combinations of time servers that        
can be synchronized. This can make the clock adjustment more erratic           
and inaccurate as opposed to having 4-5 time servers on a network.              
                                                                                
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QUESTION:                                                                       
So, do I understand you to mean that we want to minimize the number of          
servers to cause the same ones to be used each time and therefore keep          
the time relatively accurate? I realize that clerks check with other            
clerks and servers but that servers only check with servers. Are you            
also suggesting that I keep the number of servers low so that if I have         
a courier server, it will always be used in the synchronization? I could        
see it being possible that if I had a large number of servers on the            
lan, the servers could synchronize each other without checking the              
courier server on a regular basis. This could cause the servers as a           
whole to drift. Is this correct?                                                
                                                                                
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A: It is best to have 3 time servers available plus one or two                  
more in case one is declared faulty. When clerks synchronize, they              
do not check with other clerks, the only look for the minimum number            
of time servers. The clerk then adjusts his clock increment based on the        
time servers' clocks. The clerk does not use his own time in calculating        
the new time. DTS time servers do use their own time value in addition          
to other DTS time servers when syncing time. If there is a courier time         
server present on a network, all time syncs (both clerks and servers)           
will include a global DTS time server. A courier time server will not           
allow time to drift between networks.                                          
                                                                                
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CDS CELL COMMUNICATIO CPCQW DCE FEB94 IX LAN MULTIPLE OZNEW PROFILE             
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