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What AIX on 7249-851/860 (PPC603e Notebooks)?
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| Stefan Tibus Mar 26 2002 21:31 | Hello, can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e Notebooks? (7249-851/860) Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L Thanks, Stefan |
| Martin Etteldorf Mar 26 2002 21:31 | Stefan Tibus > Hello, > > can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e Notebooks? > (7249-851/860) I hope the seller told you that both have a defective Display? > Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L 4.1.5 with some enhancements. Plain 4.1.5 _should_ work somehow. Martin. -- BOFH excuse of the day: permission denied |
| Norman Levin Mar 26 2002 21:31 | "Martin Etteldorf" news:a7her2$ji0$1@news.schlund.de... | Stefan Tibus | > Hello, | > | > can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e | > Notebooks? (7249-851/860) | | I hope the seller told you that both have a defective Display? | | > Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L | | 4.1.5 with some enhancements. Plain 4.1.5 _should_ work somehow. | It is possible to install 4.2 on it BUT if you want X, you must save the Xserver from 4.1.5 since IBM decommitted support for the 860 as quickly as they supported it. Else, you can run in text mode and maybe use an xstation to come into the laptop for graphics work. That would be rich - using a linux laptop as an xstation into an aix laptop server. norm |
| Stefan Tibus Mar 26 2002 21:31 | Hi Martin, he didn't reply to my question on that, but as he wrote "nur mit Monitor betriebsbereit" I supposed something like that - and thus the machine is not really useful.... Thanks all for the info, Stefan On 23 Mar 2002 08:36:50 GMT, Martin Etteldorf > I hope the seller told you that both have a defective Display? > > > Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L > 4.1.5 with some enhancements. Plain 4.1.5 _should_ work somehow. |
| Norman Levin Mar 26 2002 21:32 | "Norman Levin" news:3c9c91b5_2@news1.prserv.net... | | "Martin Etteldorf" | news:a7her2$ji0$1@news.schlund.de... | | Stefan Tibus | | > Hello, | | > | | > can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e | | > Notebooks? (7249-851/860) | | | | I hope the seller told you that both have a defective Display? | | | | > Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L | | | | 4.1.5 with some enhancements. Plain 4.1.5 _should_ work somehow. | | | It is possible to install 4.2 on it BUT if you want X, you must save the Xserver | from 4.1.5 since IBM decommitted support for the 860 as quickly as they supported | it. Else, you can run in text mode and maybe use an xstation | to come into the laptop for graphics work. That would be rich - using a linux | laptop as an xstation into an aix laptop server. norm ps - the 860 only supported a token ring card?? maybe an ethernet. If you don't have the right card - you may have to do ODM hacks to get a generic card working. IF you have the right card and can talk to your linux machine, you will want to start xfs on aix to serve the fonts to linux. Modify the XF86Config file so it knows that fonts are coming from the networked/aix machine or your x screens will look kind of ugly - but it will work. norm | | |
| Martin Etteldorf Mar 26 2002 21:32 | Hi Stefan, Stefan Tibus > Hi Martin, > > he didn't reply to my question on that, but as he wrote "nur mit Monitor > betriebsbereit" I supposed something like that - and thus the machine is not really > useful.... You may have more luck at ebay.com or ebay.com.au... got mine (96 MB Ram, 1.2 GB Disk) from ebay australia for EUR 250 plus EUR 100 for shipping and customs #-) Even if the seller won't ship to germany there is always a way to get it. Mine was collected and shipped by a kind person from comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware. Maybe someone here will do so, too if you ask. I had to wait two months but it should arrive this week, finally :) Martin. -- BOFH excuse of the day: permission denied |
| Martin Etteldorf Mar 26 2002 21:32 | Norman Levin > | That would be rich - using a linux laptop as an xstation into an aix laptop > | server. norm > > ps - the 860 only supported a token ring card?? maybe an ethernet. If you The old "IBM Auto 16/4 PCMCIA Token Ring Adapter" will work (the one with the chequered Hologram), both the new Auto 16/4 (with the allover IBM Hologram) and the Turbo 16/4 are not supported. With Ethernet you are stuck to the "IBM Credit Card 10 MBit Ethernet Adapter" with BNC or RJ45. > don't have the right card - you may have to do ODM hacks to get a generic card > working. I doubt it'll be that easy. You don't have the VPD to some generic Ether- net Card and without the VPD it won't run. Martin. -- BOFH excuse of the day: permission denied |
| Clive Sparkes Mar 27 2002 7:24 | Stefan Tibus wrote: > > Hello, > > can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e > > Notebooks? (7249-851/860) Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L > > Thanks, Stefan Others have already commented on the 860, so I'll restrict comments to the 850 (7249-851). No special version of AIX is required for these machines. 4.1.5 - OK. 4.2.1 - OK. 4.3.3 - Command line only, no X. Also you cannot do a migration/preservation install from earlier versions due to the total incompatability of devices.pci.ed101073.rte with 4.3.3. Also you will need something to act as console until you can install the devices.pci.1c104ac2 drivers (from the 4.2.1 CDs). 5.x - forget it, as well as the device driver not being supported the pcmcia cards are not supported. -- Regards, Clive |
| Martin Etteldorf Mar 27 2002 10:28 | Hi Clive, Clive Sparkes > Others have already commented on the 860, so I'll restrict comments to the 850 > (7249-851). No special version of AIX is required for these machines. > 4.1.5 - OK. > 4.2.1 - OK. Interesting... 4.2.1 will _not_ do X on a 860, command line only. One has to go with 4.1.5(.01) or use 4.2.x with the X11.rte.* from 4.1.5. My 860 arrived yesterday with 4.2.1 installed... no way to get X running. After installing the 4.1.5 X11.rte filesets, X11 worked just fine... However, I did a clean install of 4.1.5 which is, by the way, a bit smaller than 4.2.1. Martin. -- BOFH excuse of the day: permission denied Neue Bilder: <http://gruftie.net/Gallery/Konzert2/1.html |
| Clive Sparkes Mar 27 2002 13:27 | Martin Etteldorf wrote: > > Hi Clive, > > Clive Sparkes > > > Others have already commented on the 860, so I'll restrict comments to the 850 > > (7249-851). No special version of AIX is required for these machines. > > 4.1.5 - OK. > > 4.2.1 - OK. > > Interesting... 4.2.1 will _not_ do X on a 860, command line only. One has to go > with 4.1.5(.01) or use 4.2.x with the X11.rte.* from 4.1.5. My 860 arrived > yesterday with 4.2.1 installed... no way to get X running. After installing the > 4.1.5 X11.rte filesets, X11 worked just fine... However, I did a clean install of > 4.1.5 which is, by the way, a bit smaller than 4.2.1. > > Martin. > Yep, for some reason IBM chose to include X support for the G10 (used in the 850) into 4.2.1 but not support for the GT20 (used in the 860). -- Regards, Clive |
| Norman Levin Mar 28 2002 16:37 | The 850 and its 'cheaper' brother, the 820 had a different graphic adapter than the 860. The old units actually can run newer version of aix then the 860 which were supported officially for exactly ONE release - 4.1.5. This support/lack of was clearly one of the finest examples of IBMs sticking it to the customer. norm - still U(YTT5ed off - Levin "Clive Sparkes" news:3CA19509.17EACC38@another.com... | Stefan Tibus wrote: | > | > Hello, | > | > can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e | > | > Notebooks? (7249-851/860) Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, | > 4.3.3, 5L | > | > Thanks, Stefan | | Others have already commented on the 860, so I'll restrict comments to the 850 | (7249-851). No special version of AIX is required for these machines. | 4.1.5 - OK. | 4.2.1 - OK. | 4.3.3 - Command line only, no X. Also you cannot do a migration/preservation | install from earlier versions due to the total incompatability of | devices.pci.ed101073.rte with 4.3.3. Also you will need something to act as | console until you can install the devices.pci.1c104ac2 drivers (from the 4.2.1 | CDs). | 5.x - forget it, as well as the device driver not being supported the pcmcia cards | are not supported. | | -- | Regards, Clive | TEST Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/2002 |