Norm Johnson
The "M" die expands the case as usual,
then puts a small step which is a couple thousandths over nominal bullet
diameter at the very mouth of the case, allowing for straight and true
bullet starting.
A few years ago I purchased a dozen "M"
die expander plugs from Lyman to use when I need an over-size or special
diameter plug. These I have a machinist friend turn down for special
experiments.
They do, however, come in a great
variety of sizes from Lyman if you do not have access to a lathe or
machinist's services. They are listed below.
(The
plug screws into the top thing. The
top thing screws into the expander body. The hip bone...
Note that expander bodies
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come in two lengths. M1 is long (left),
M2 is short (right). You can purchase various dimension plugs from
Lyman. You can buy untold quantities of stuff from Lyman, they never seem
to complain. If you have a long, or M1 expander body, you won't be
able to expand short cases. I bought a 7MM "M" die, that came with a long
or M1 expander body. When I tried to expand 7MM TCU cases, I found
that even after screwing the top thing all the way down, I couldn't
get the case far enough into the die to expand it. This led to confusion.
A call to Lyman cleared the whole thing up. I needed a SPECIAL 7MM TCU "M"
DIE. I bought it, and could then expand the 7MM TCU cases. You can expand
long cases in the short M2 expander body. So if you have one = 1
short M2 expander body, you can screw any plug into the
top thing, screw the top thing into the short M2 expander
body; and expand away. joe
b.)
M" Die dimensions from Lyman |
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Diameters +.0000/-.0005 |
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Rifle |
First |
Second |
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Plugs |
Step |
Step |
Bullet sizes |
22R |
.222 |
.225 |
.222 |
.226 |
24R |
.242 |
.246 |
.243 |
.244 |
25R |
.255 |
.259 |
.256 |
.257 |
26R |
.262 |
.266 |
.263 |
.265 |
27R |
.276 |
.280 |
.277 |
.279 |
28R |
.282 |
.286 |
.283 |
.285 |
30R |
.307 |
.311 |
.308 |
.310 |
31R |
.310 |
.314 |
.311 |
.313 |
31AR |
.318 |
.322 |
.319 |
.321 |
32R |
.320 |
.324 |
.321 |
.323 |
33R |
.337
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.341 |
.338 |
.340 |
35R |
.357 |
.361 |
.358 |
.360 |
37R |
.374 |
.378 |
.375 |
.377 |
45R |
.455 |
.459 |
.456 |
.458 |
M" Die dimensions from Lyman |
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Diameters +.0000/-.0005 |
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Pistol |
First |
Second |
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Plugs |
Step |
Step |
Bullet sizes |
25AP |
.249 |
.253 |
.251 |
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30P |
.307 |
.311 |
.308 |
.310 |
32AP |
.310 |
.314 |
.311 |
.313 |
32P |
.313 |
.317 |
.314 |
.316 |
38AP |
.353 |
.357 |
.354 |
.356 |
38P |
.356 |
.360 |
.357 |
.359 |
10MM |
.398 |
.402 |
.399 |
.401 |
10MM |
.408 |
.412 |
.409 |
.411 |
44MP |
.427 |
.431 |
.428 |
.430 |
45AP |
.450 |
.454 |
.451 |
.453 |
45P |
.453 |
.457 |
.454 |
.456 |
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Rifle Calibers |
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"M1" and "M2" Expander
Die Bodies: |
Use With: |
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M1 |
M2 |
17 Rem |
x |
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22 Hornet |
x |
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22-250 Rem |
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x |
220 Swift |
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x |
222 Rem |
x |
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222 Rem Mag |
x |
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223 Rem |
x |
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243 Win |
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x |
6mm Rem |
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x |
25-20 |
x |
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25-06 |
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x |
250 Sav. |
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x |
257 Roberts |
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x |
6.5 x 55 |
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x |
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Rifle Calibers |
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"M1" and "M2" Expander Die
Bodies: |
Use With: |
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M1 |
M2 |
7.62 x 39 |
x |
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32-20 |
x |
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303 Brit. |
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x |
32 Win Spc. |
x |
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8mm x 57 |
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x |
8mm Rem Mag |
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x |
338 Win Mag |
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x |
35 Rem |
x |
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358 Win |
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x |
35 Whelen |
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x |
375 H & H |
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x |
38-55 |
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x |
444 Marlin |
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x |
45-70 |
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x |
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"M1" and "M2" Expander
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Bodies |
"M1" and "M2" Expander Die
Bodies: |
Use With: |
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M1 |
M2 |
270 Win |
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x |
270 Win |
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x |
7-30 Waters |
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x |
7mm Weath. Mag |
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x |
7mm Rem Mag |
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x |
7mm x 57 |
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x |
280 Rem |
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x |
30 MI |
x |
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30-30 Win |
x |
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300 Savage |
x |
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308 Win |
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x |
30-06 |
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x |
300 Win Mag |
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x |
300 Weath M |
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x |
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How are these dimensions related to the 'steps' above?
The
main shaft of the expander portion is the "First Step". It is typically a
few thousandths smaller than bullet diameter, as are conventional expander
buttons.
The "Second Step" puts a small step of increased radius in the case mouth
about 1/16th inch deep (adjustable). This step is a few thousandths over
bullet diameter to aid effortless starting.
What are expander bodies?
The die bodies that hold the expander plugs; directly analogous with
conventional expander dies.
See the Lyman
catalog (or above) for a picture which is worth a thousand words.
How much expansion or bell does the M plug put on the case mouth?
Ideally, for lead bullets, the first step would be about .002" under
bullet diameter. For jacketed bullets, the first step should be .003-.004"
under bullet diameter. In either instance, the second step will be 2, 3,
or 4 thousandths over bullet diameter.
Usually the best lead bullet diameter is about .0005" less than the
chamber's measured throat. Most of my .30 caliber rifles shoot .310" or
.311" cast bullets best. I keep several plugs on hand and have a machinist
friend turn them to my specs if I think it will help.
It is also highly desirable, on a two diameter rifle bullet, for the nose
of the bullet to be of bore riding diameter. To check this for a given
bullet, push the bullet nose first into the
rifle's muzzle. If it goes
in without resistance, the bullet nose
is too small and good accuracy is not as likely.
Does the seating die crimp out the bell or do you just leave the cases
expanded?
Your choice. For my
lever actions I Sometimes crimp. For bolt actions, I do not.
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