Because I keep forgetting it, here's a test URL for www4.patents.ibm.com, serviced by the NT machines, ap0120e0 & ap0121e0. http://www4.delphion.com/servlet/ipaddr http://www4.patents.ibm.com/servlet/ipaddr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, Wil had this little backdoor for copying files from www4, For example, http://www4.patents.ibm.com/servlet/fetchfile?file=D:\notes\data\keyfile.kyr and .sth