As I said before, NT4 (server). The same can be done easily with Win9x and WinRoute software. It is both a bridge and a router. BROUTER if you will. A bridge because it "bridges the two topologies Ethernet and Token-Ring (in my case) from different networks. You can easily set one up with NetWare too. While the original poster must decide what solution is best for him, there are several options available that will not break the bank or that can be implemented with spare/excess supplies. -- Bob Mann comp.dcom.lans.token-ring Brett not even going there on size mate but trust me it aint small anyway back to the point at hand if anyone wants a goodish guide to how to do it without just chucking in the odd technical point here there and everywhere go to this site ftp://ftp.madge.com/technotes/t.pdf granted its for madge kit, which can be a great aid in migration as it offers a nice switch that can replace your current one and also provide a path into a ethernet network. It explains the goodies and the badies of trying to do it. Its all about scaling it into your design.